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Chris
05-14-2020, 07:31 PM
Sorry to hear the news about the 777 fleet. Delta seems to be conslolidating around the Airbus products. Has there been any discussion about the 3 simulators?

Andy
05-14-2020, 08:02 PM
I have not heard anything - there are going to be more than a couple empty bays in the shop by the time this is all over.

Chris
05-17-2020, 09:41 PM
Hopefully the proceeds from the sale of the 3 777 devices later in the year are earmarked to preserve jobs at the schoolhouse.
That would be a nice gesture of goodwill by EB & Co.

knfenimore
07-30-2020, 03:55 PM
I've heard 777-2 is going to UPS with the planes.

Chris
07-31-2020, 05:23 AM
With the planes? As far as I know there is no conversion program for the 77L to the 77F. Unless there is now a business case for it. Hope y'all are doing okay out there, Keith!

knfenimore
07-31-2020, 10:49 AM
Don't know if it's true and for some reason I think it's FedEx instead of UPS. They looked at our 777-2 Sim when they were buying a CAE Sim years ago. It's all just rumor though.

Chris
07-31-2020, 11:28 PM
FDX would make more sense as they already operate the 77F.

NitrousPowrdSS
09-10-2020, 08:44 AM
So, rumors have been on again, off again but this week we are back to on again. Our managing director had said that we are again interested in a 777 full flight from Delta. Somehow a couple of months ago the deal had gone completely sideways but at that point CAE was involved so not surprised. The one we are interested in is a CAE Super C classic device that has electric motion and controls from what I have heard. What are the other two devices?

NitrousPowrdSS
09-10-2020, 08:45 AM
Oh and supposedly we are taking one plane as well. Just what I have heard.

Chris
09-21-2020, 09:06 PM
So, rumors have been on again, off again but this week we are back to on again. Our managing director had said that we are again interested in a 777 full flight from Delta. Somehow a couple of months ago the deal had gone completely sideways but at that point CAE was involved so not surprised. The one we are interested in is a CAE Super C classic device that has electric motion and controls from what I have heard. What are the other two devices?

That would be "777#2" there, ~2008 build ship. As for taking one plane, surely that would be one of Delta's 10 "LR" jets - just to get the engines as spares as they are bolt-on to the 777 freighter. There is no 777-200 pax to freighter conversion program (yet). The other full flight, #1, is a ~1998 ish era CAE sim. The FTD is similar vintage.

NitrousPowrdSS
10-01-2020, 12:03 PM
That would be "777#2" there, ~2008 build ship. As for taking one plane, surely that would be one of Delta's 10 "LR" jets - just to get the engines as spares as they are bolt-on to the 777 freighter. There is no 777-200 pax to freighter conversion program (yet). The other full flight, #1, is a ~1998 ish era CAE sim. The FTD is similar vintage.

A 2008 build would put it right in the same vintage as all of our 777 devices. I have heard from some that are a little more in the know than I am that #2 is so similar to ours that the only difference is electric controls and motion.

What has happened with your 767 simulators?

Chris
02-05-2021, 12:29 AM
What has happened with your 767 simulators?
If you're referring to United, when I "left" they were all still going strong. In particular the two -300s see a lot of use selling time to ATI, Kalitta, etc. along with the 757 devices. The two 767-400 sims weren't being used much because at the time the -400 fleet was still parked in Roswell. Not sure if they'll ever come back. My crystal ball tells me the long term prospects of the 757/767 fleet at UAL is not good with the A321XLR and Max 10 coming into the fleet there. Should create some "buy" opportunities to move the sims out though. I am no longer at TK (best thing that happened to me in 2020), so the current situation I can't comment on.

NitrousPowrdSS
02-05-2021, 10:16 AM
If you're referring to United, when I "left" they were all still going strong. In particular the two -300s see a lot of use selling time to ATI, Kalitta, etc. along with the 757 devices. The two 767-400 sims weren't being used much because at the time the -400 fleet was still parked in Roswell. Not sure if they'll ever come back. My crystal ball tells me the long term prospects of the 757/767 fleet at UAL is not good with the A321XLR and Max 10 coming into the fleet there. Should create some "buy" opportunities to move the sims out though. I am no longer at TK (best thing that happened to me in 2020), so the current situation I can't comment on.

No, I was referring to Delta 767 devices. If we keep taking 767 deliveries like we are we will need another 767 FTD and full flight.

Chris
02-05-2021, 06:25 PM
Well, Delta is accelerating it's 767 retirements.
https://www.aerotime.aero/26153-delta-to-speed-up-retirement-of-49-boeing-767-300ers#:~:text=Delta%20Air%20Lines%2C%20one%20of%2 0the%20major%20airlines,a%20gradual%20retirement%2 0of%20jets%20by%20December%202025.