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reprob8
01-04-2006, 02:00 AM
From the San Francisco Chronicle:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/01/02/DDG5TG01E31.DTL&type=printable


Perhaps you have been unable to follow the intricacies of the logic used by John Yoo, the UC Berkeley law professor who has emerged as the president's foremost apologist for all the stuff he has to apologize for. I have therefore prepared a brief, informal summary of the relevant arguments.
Why does the president have the power to unilaterally authorize wiretaps of American citizens?
Because he is the president.
Does the president always have that power?
No. Only when he is fighting the war on terror does he have that power.
When will the war on terror be over?
The fight against terror is eternal. Terror is not a nation; it is a tactic. As long as the president is fighting a tactic, he can use any means he deems appropriate.
Why does the president have that power?
It's in the Constitution.
Where in the Constitution?
It can be inferred from the Constitution. When the president is protecting America, he may by definition make any inference from the Constitution that he chooses. He is keeping America safe.
Who decides what measures are necessary to keep America safe?
The president.
Who has oversight over the actions of the president?
The president oversees his own actions. If at any time he determines that he is a danger to America, he has the right to wiretap himself, name himself an enemy combatant and spirit himself away to a secret prison in Egypt.
But isn't there a secret court, the FISA court, that has the power to authorize wiretapping warrants? Wasn't that court set up for just such situations when national security is at stake?
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court might disagree with the president. It might thwart his plans. It is a danger to the democracy that we hold so dear. We must never let the courts stand in the way of America's safety.
So there are no guarantees that the president will act in the best interests of the country?
The president was elected by the people. They chose him; therefore he represents the will of the people. The people would never act against their own interests; therefore, the president can never act against the best interests of the people. It's a doctrine I like to call "the triumph of the will."
But surely the Congress was also elected by the people, and therefore also represents the will of the people. Is that not true?
Congress? Please.
It's sounding more and more as if your version of the presidency resembles an absolute monarchy. Does it?
Of course not. We Americans hate kings. Kings must wear crowns and visit trade fairs and expositions. The president only wears a cowboy hat and visits military bases, and then only if he wants to.
Can the president authorize torture?
No. The president can only authorize appropriate means.
Could those appropriate means include torture?
It's not torture if the president says it's not torture. It's merely appropriate. Remember, America is under constant attack from terrorism. The president must use any means necessary to protect America.
Won't the American people object?
Not if they're scared enough.
What if the Supreme Court rules against the president?
The president has respect for the Supreme Court. We are a nation of laws, not of men. In the unlikely event that the court would rule against the president, he has the right to deny that he was ever doing what he was accused of doing, and to keep further actions secret. He also has the right to rename any practices the court finds repugnant. "Wiretapping" could be called "protective listening." There's nothing the matter with protective listening.
Recently, a White House spokesman defended the wiretaps this way: "This is not about monitoring phone calls designed to arrange Little League practice or what to bring to a potluck dinner. These are designed to monitor calls from very bad people to very bad people who have a history of blowing up commuter trains, weddings and churches." If these very bad people have blown up churches, why not just arrest them?
That information is classified.
Have many weddings been blown up by terrorists?
No, they haven't, which is proof that the system works. The president does reserve the right to blow up gay terrorist weddings -- but only if he determines that the safety of the nation is at stake. The president is also keeping his eye on churches, many of which have become fonts of sedition. I do not believe that the president has any problem with commuter trains, although that could always change.
So this policy will be in place right up until the next election?
Election? Let's just say that we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. It may not be wise to have an election in a time of national peril.
A brief primer designed to help you understand the workings of our new, streamlined American system of government.

LBLUNTX
01-04-2006, 12:03 PM
Shirley you jest.

Nice satire, obviously from the opinion section. You could have also posted this drivel in the humor section.

reprob8
01-04-2006, 05:46 PM
Perhaps it should have been in the humor section, but it reads too much like a Scott McClellen press briefing.biggrin:

And don't call me Shirley.

Simmi
05-30-2006, 04:06 PM
I just listened to two hours of Andrew Grove, claiming to be a whistle blower on 9/11. Apart from 5 minutes of drivel at the start, I found it interesting stuff. It does make you think..

If he is correct, there appears far too many coincidences. Make your own mind up. http://www.911blogger.com/2006/05/911-whistleblower-andrew-grove-comes.html

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The Pirate
05-30-2006, 08:22 PM
not to be too "art bell'ish" but some of us saw this type of thing coming since the marine barracks in beirut was bombed, then it got more believable when one of our own soldiers blew up the federal building in oklahoma, and each incident seems to increase the paranoia. i grew up thinking that i was safe and sane cause nobody would screw with america. one of my first cognisant memories as a real little kid was lining up on the hiway through our tiny town as Harry Trumans motorcade drove from the state capital to the puget sound naval ship yard to dedicate something and my grampa telling me how he stopped a war by making the ultimate decision to use terrible force. it took me years to understand. i served during the cold war, and from the inside i knew we could kick butt if anyone tried. since the "evil empire " gave up, there are too many crazy cultures and countries hell bent on our total destruction, it actually cost's me some sleep. the only way we can possibly stay safe in my opinion is stop funding them, stop codling them, and go back to walking softly, and get a bigger stick. man i miss the days when an american president was feared by everyone but his own country......I still think that honorable service in OUR military and experience making real decisions and understanding what the cost of sending troops in harms way means in real cost of life was a top 5 qualification to run for president......huh4: petrified

Simmi
05-31-2006, 03:17 AM
Erm.. I heard little or nothing in there about military.
More along the lines of conspiracy and corrupt money grabbing fat cat SOB's that coluded to bring down the twin towers. So many unanswered questions. When you can sort those B's out, fighting in any military unit will be only to their benefit and not to the benefit of ordinary folk. So who would you be fighting to protect? Your country or the fact cat SOB's corporate profits and the people behind them egging things on to make a nice profit? You can see them flag waving and crying for their country all the way to the bank out of the windows of their Porches/helicopters or whatever

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