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sandy61
06-30-2006, 03:53 AM
Would you support them, yes or no.
The Pirate
06-30-2006, 05:51 AM
for what? lookin hot and making good country music, or daring to speak their minds as we all do? not giving in to an industry that likes to control it's stables?
in a way, i can agree with both sides of this tempest in a teapot. the chix can sing or say what they want, being americans and all, just as toby can sing and say as he see's fit. celebrities should be our very last source of opinion. i just listen to the music, watch the video's and enjoy the view, them chix is pretty good lookin, i'll agree with that.
sandy61
07-02-2006, 12:54 PM
Since I am not getting any responses, here is what I think.
I think that you ought not to say disparaging thing overseas about your fellow Americans, weather it?s about the President or Joe Blow. Epically if you don?t have the guts to say them when you are here on American soil.
That being said, I?ll defend your right to say them, however, I?ll not be buying any of their music or support them. I am more of a Toby Keith guy anyway.
reprob8
07-02-2006, 01:54 PM
Since I am not getting any responses, here is what I think.
I think that you ought not to say disparaging thing overseas about your fellow Americans, weather it?s about the President or Joe Blow. Epically if you don?t have the guts to say them when you are here on American soil.
That being said, I?ll defend your right to say them, however, I?ll not be buying any of their music or support them. I am more of a Toby Keith guy anyway.
I didn't realize that freedom of speech was right that ended at our national borders.
If the foundation of what you are saying is that no citizen may criticize his or her country outside of its national borders, then it applies just as easily to Iraqi dissidents opposed to Saddam Hussein while he was in power, and South African dissidents in Europe during the Apartheid era to name two. Let's take it a step further. Why bother granting political asylum to a dissident from a foreign country? Afterall, they have committed an act of disloyalty by bad-mouthing their politcal leaders from foreign soil. Would you apply the same standard to a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany?
If it only applies to US citizens, then you've granted to some special exemption to which we are not entitled. You mean to tell me that someone like Paul Robeson or Martin Luther King should not have gone to Europe and criticize the racist policies of the Jim Crow south in the 1950s?
Slippery slope here...what if a dissident on US territory criticized his leaders on the internet, but it wound being read by someone in Italy? What then?
sandy61
07-02-2006, 10:10 PM
My whole point was the fact that they are so willing to take pot shots at the Prez over there, why won't they have the guts to get up on stage here and make the same comments. I have nothing wrong with freedom of speech, here or abroad. Either you are proud of what you say or ashamed. They should have stood by their guns if that's really what they believed. They caved and apologizes after saying it, now they are trying to backtrack on their apology. They appear undecided do to the fact that they might take a huge $ hit.
I guess my whole point is that they are to wishy washy.
reprob8
07-02-2006, 11:13 PM
My whole point was the fact that they are so willing to take pot shots at the Prez over there, why won't they have the guts to get up on stage here and make the same comments. I have nothing wrong with freedom of speech, here or abroad. Either you are proud of what you say or ashamed. They should have stood by their guns if that's really what they believed. They caved and apologizes after saying it, now they are trying to backtrack on their apology. They appear undecided do to the fact that they might take a huge $ hit.
I guess my whole point is that they are to wishy washy.
I guess by those standards, Anne Coulter is a paragon of virtue and courage.
Even after they apologized for their statements, they were still ostracized, and death threats were made against them. Clear Channel pulled them off their rotation completely. After a while, I guess you say, "F--k it. Why bother trying to smooth over the waters, if you're still out for blood."
The Dixie Chicks aren't the only ones...There are artists who were afraid to speak out against the war for fear of losing revenue because they their concert tours being promoted by Clear Channel. So much for the concept of free speech.
Suggest you go back and read your post from this morning. I believe your "whole point" was that no one should criticize a fellow American while overseas. The fact that they won't do it on American soil is just an aggravating factor, according to your arguement.
That still leaves what you said open to question.
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